This is a follow-up to my earlier post about IMAP clients. This is the last post I'll make on the subject for while; I promise.
Ultimately, KMail didn't work for me either. It has a number of extremely serious IMAP and DIMAP bugs which prevent it from being used in production. In an effort to confirm this, I did consult with folks at #kontact. It was hard to track anyone down over the course of two days but I finally did find someone who was able to tell me that KMail isn't being worked on - all the core developers are busy with their day jobs. Apparently, all of the bugs I experienced are regressions that have existed since the KDE 3.4 time frame (some six months ago).
During my discourse in #kontact, I also heard an rumor that I haven't been able to confirm. So take it with a grain of salt but, supposedly, Evolution is now only being maintained by Novell by a team in Bangladesh. And, most of their time is being sucked up implementing Groupwise support. Also, supposedly, the only people in Ximian whom are still working on Evolution are only doing so on a very limited basis. I don't know if its true or not but this would square with my experience with Evolution's bugzilla - triaging takes a very long time.
I did give Sylpheed Claws GTK2 a serious test run. It almost won me over but in the end it was just too slow. It can take up to 60 seconds to open a folder even though there is a good local disk cache.
So, I have now been using Thunderbird for five days. It hasn't crashed a single time and while it doesn't have the calendaring piece, as I said before, I can use a separate application for that. IMAP folders open immediately and Junk mail filtering is non-blocking. I don't really have any complaints about it, yet.
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None of them synch well with mobile phones or PDAs. For example, Evolution's MultiSync was last updated 2004. None of these programs do SyncML out of the box. Evolution has a third-party, console SyncML with a complex configuration system.
Andrew
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jorge
The only thing I miss about it that Evo had was the global addressbook and other things with the rest of the desktop (thanks to the evolution-data-server stuff). Perhaps someone will implement that as an extension or via LDAP somehow though. That would be very cool.
Just tested on a imap folder with 10.153 mails and even though it preprocesses the folder to remove messages older than XX days, it still only took 2.8sec.
Jason, is your IMAP server Exchange?
Well, I have using Kmail with no problems but suddenly I got the mencioned slowness.
Now it takes near 1 minute not just to open a folder (with 30- mails) but to do anything else like delete a old mail (40 seconds) or mark one as spam.
I have not changed anything, unless the automatic update have done it.
Am using kUbuntu 6.06
http://wiki.mozilla.org/Calendar:Lightni
http://wiki.mozilla.org/Calendar:Home_Pa
Also, Mark Shuttleworth's OSAF is building Chandler, but they don't even "dog food" all of their application yet.
So, basically, there's still no great open source / free software calendaring / PIM / e-mail application. There are some close calls, but nothing is quite there yet.
Andrew
Although I don't think there's much that's actually visible to users at this point - there aren't any significant features missing that I can think of, just a lot of behind-the-scenes work to improve stability and performance, to work with different API changes, for example.
On a side note. The Calendar and Contacts applications that are standalone but use e-d-s are quite good and a lot less of a memory pig.
As for KMail, there is new stuff being worked on for KDE4. I just hope that it works better.
And most KDE hackers use KMail so that is were all these issues surprise me.
well... if kmail also provides a calendar, tasks and contacts management and supports as many different kind of accounts, then we can compare them. ;-)
with regard to the triaging, i can only say that the volunteers try hard to triage every bug that comes in - take a look at the weekly statistics at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/reports/weekly-b
the situation has become much better within the last months and only very few bugs have not been triaged.
it's a pity that your bug report has been not triaged earlier (at least i was on an "offline" holiday when you filed your report). :-(
cheers,
andre klapper (one of the evo bugtriagers)
Kmail (Kontact) does. So they can be compared.
I appreciate your efforts WRT triaging.
The team is in India (Bangalore) also & they do alot besides groupwise suppport. Also, Red Hat is working on evolution, specially i18n.
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